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Urp. Train derailment just a few miles down the track.

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zotz
Nov. 6th, 2004 08:51 pm (UTC)
They're going to have to do something about all these level crossings eventually.
shaunotd
Nov. 7th, 2004 11:50 am (UTC)
Earlier this year, Her Majesty's Railway Inspectorate said level crossings posed the "greatest" potential rail risk.
It said existing level crossings were gradually being removed, with no new ones being built. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3989277.stm


I'd rather like to know how many level-crossing crashes *are* accidents (i.e. vehicles stalling, warning lights failing etc.) as opposed to the fuckwittery of motorists...

zotz
Nov. 7th, 2004 12:00 pm (UTC)
As with the derailment in Yorkshire in 2001, sometimes the greatest threat to rail travellers is road travellers. A point to be remembered by people who say the railways are unsafe.
shaunotd
Nov. 7th, 2004 12:52 pm (UTC)
Travelling by car has around 7 times the risk of death posed by rail travel - *even* in bad years like 1999 (Ladbroke Grove). [Bus & coach deaths are comparable to rail deaths]

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=3680

This dataset does not include confirmed suicides.

Deaths from old age whilst waiting for trains/in traffic jams are also ommitted as these are balanced by births over the same interval >;-)

Indvidual road incidents are less dramatic because they usually don't involve hundreds of people at the same place & time.

Strangely, motorists also feel more secure knowing that *they* (as enthusiastic amateurs) are in control, rather than abdicating resposibility to a team of professionals.

Dammit, I must get that *rant* button looked at....
zotz
Nov. 7th, 2004 01:00 pm (UTC)
Cheers. Interesting data, and it may come in useful too.

Control issues are interesting. The same applies to astronauts, test pilots, biologists working with pathogens . . .

Public perception of risk tends to depend on the worst case rather than the frequency - cf nuclear power stations for another example.
shaunotd
Nov. 7th, 2004 01:11 pm (UTC)
Indeed. I notice air deaths don't even register on those stats...so as long as I survive the train & coach to the airport, I'm sorted 8-)
araqnid
Nov. 7th, 2004 05:13 pm (UTC)
Flanders & Swann said they reckoned the bus drivers round Heathrow were under orders to keep the statistics favourable :} (And that was just back in the 50s...)
shaunotd
Nov. 7th, 2004 05:27 pm (UTC)
Tch! Cynics. Now, where's that kettle I wanted to call 'black'?
shaunotd
Nov. 6th, 2004 11:20 pm (UTC)
Glad you missed it mate... it's sounding increasingly nasty as they clear up 8-(
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